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      Atlassian Update – 22 August 2018

      Hi everyone,

      Thank you for your insights and thoughts on this issue.

      We've recently posted an update regarding this topic on community for all Atlassian Server & Data Center products.

      Please read it here → https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-discussions/Java-11-and-OpenJDK-support-for-Atlassian-Server-amp-Data-Center/m-p/872998#M4575

      We'll provide further updates on the progress of work for supporting OpenJDK 11 for Jira within the next few months.

      Kind regards,
      Jira Product Management

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      Atlassian Update – 22 August 2018 Hi everyone, Thank you for your insights and thoughts on this issue. We've recently posted an update regarding this topic on community for all Atlassian Server & Data Center products. Please read it here →  https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-discussions/Java-11-and-OpenJDK-support-for-Atlassian-Server-amp-Data-Center/m-p/872998#M4575 We'll provide further updates on the progress of work for supporting OpenJDK 11 for Jira within the next few months. Kind regards, Jira Product Management
    • We collect Jira feedback from various sources, and we evaluate what we've collected when planning our product roadmap. To understand how this piece of feedback will be reviewed, see our Implementation of New Features Policy.

      NOTE: This suggestion is for JIRA Server. Using JIRA Cloud? See the corresponding suggestion.

      Would be great if JIRA and the rest of the Atlassian Tools could support the usage of OpenJDK platform.

      Thanks!
      mr-patel

      Update 2018-07-10
      • In January 2019 Oracle will stop providing public updates for Java SE 8 for commercial users as outlined in Oracle Java SE Support Roadmap.
      • For product releases after Java SE 8, Oracle will designate a release, every three years, as a Long-Term-Support (LTS) release. The next planned LTS release is Java SE 11 (18.9 LTS) coming out at the end of September 2018.
      • Beginning with Oracle Java SE 11, the Oracle JDK will be available for free only for development, testing or demo purposes.
      • Starting with Java 9 Oracle has started providing OpenJDK builds which can be used by those who do not want commercial support.

            [JRASERVER-41589] Add OpenJDK as a supported platform for Jira

            Jakub Lazinski (Inactive) added a comment - Please find the latest update here:  https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Agile-articles/Java-11-OpenJDK-support-update-for-Server-and-Data-Center/ba-p/967836#M392

            Atlassian Update – 22 August 2018

            Hi everyone,

            Thank you for your insights and thoughts on this issue.
            We've recently posted an update regarding this topic on community for all Atlassian Server & Data Center products.

            Please read it here → https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-discussions/Java-11-and-OpenJDK-support-for-Atlassian-Server-amp-Data-Center/m-p/872998#M4575

            We'll provide further updates on the progress of work for supporting OpenJDK 11 for Jira within the next few months.

            Kind regards,
            Jira Product Management

            Jakub Lazinski (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Atlassian Update – 22 August 2018 Hi everyone, Thank you for your insights and thoughts on this issue. We've recently posted an update regarding this topic on community for all Atlassian Server & Data Center products. Please read it here →  https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-discussions/Java-11-and-OpenJDK-support-for-Atlassian-Server-amp-Data-Center/m-p/872998#M4575 We'll provide further updates on the progress of work for supporting OpenJDK 11 for Jira within the next few months. Kind regards, Jira Product Management

            Steve M (St3v0) added a comment - Not sure if my other conversation about openJDK would be of interest to anyone.   Here is the link: https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Confluence-questions/OpenJDK-support-plans/qaq-p/784851?utm_source=atlcomm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=immediate_general_reply&utm_content=topic#U787433  

            absolutely smorri1967, we really need support for openJDK more than ever before.. but lets be real, the responsetime atlassian has on even petite changes to their own software (being more than a decade), we will all be retired by the time they even consider basing on another java..

            does someone has any suggestions or knowhow, to get around the oracle-jdk issue? i tried openjdk for some time, that was not very stable.. and i +dont +(as you might read) rely much on atlassian to provide anything usable..

            congo bongo added a comment - absolutely smorri1967 , we really need support for openJDK more than ever before.. but lets be real, the responsetime atlassian has on even petite changes to their own software (being more than a decade), we will all be retired by the time they even consider basing on another java.. does someone has any suggestions or knowhow, to get around the oracle-jdk issue? i tried openjdk for some time, that was not very stable.. and i +dont +(as you might read) rely much on atlassian to provide anything usable..

            Oracle is changing (or changed) their Oracle JDK support structure.  We need to buy Oracle JDK licenses (not just the support contract) from Oracle JDK 1.8 onwards.  This is going to make Atlassian product deployment using VMs very costly since Oracle doesn’t recognize VMWare VM technology and need to pay for all the physical cores on the ESXi servers.

            Steve M (St3v0) added a comment - Oracle is changing (or changed) their Oracle JDK support structure.  We need to buy Oracle JDK licenses (not just the support contract) from Oracle JDK 1.8 onwards.  This is going to make Atlassian product deployment using VMs very costly since Oracle doesn’t recognize VMWare VM technology and need to pay for all the physical cores on the ESXi servers.

            Important news for Redhat users: Redhat is going to stop offering Oracle Java via RPM in november 2018 and recommends switching to OpenJDK: https://access.redhat.com/articles/3322051.

            So this is becoming a cost issue as well, as we'll have to pay for Oracle licences on a per server basis. Please start supporting OpenJDK soon - for all Atalassian procucts (we are using Confluence, Jira, FishEye, Bamboo)

            Barbara Kohlroser added a comment - Important news for Redhat users: Redhat is going to stop offering Oracle Java via RPM in november 2018 and recommends switching to OpenJDK: https://access.redhat.com/articles/3322051 . So this is becoming a cost issue as well, as we'll have to pay for Oracle licences on a per server basis. Please start supporting OpenJDK soon - for all Atalassian procucts (we are using Confluence, Jira, FishEye, Bamboo)

            MattS added a comment -

            JIRA isn't open source, but you get to see the source code for all licenses from $10 up. 

            The supported platforms at https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/AdminJIRAServer072/Supported+platforms just say Linux/Solaris, no mention of freebsd. The heapspace with a 32 bit jvm is too small to do anything useful I agree. But the problem of the 64 bit jvm core dumping would seem to be 

            MattS added a comment - JIRA isn't open source, but you get to see the source code for all licenses from $10 up.  The supported platforms at https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/AdminJIRAServer072/Supported+platforms  just say Linux/Solaris, no mention of freebsd. The heapspace with a 32 bit jvm is too small to do anything useful I agree. But the problem of the 64 bit jvm core dumping would seem to be 

            Linux administration is not lightweight and agile like it was 10 years ago. It is not the best choice for a minimalist infrastructure. Any of the BSD flavors facilitate simplified infrastructure. It's easy to tell if you have to stand up a Linux box just to run the JIRA portion of Atlassian.

            OpenJDK support makes a big difference in deployment value at lean and agile sites.

            George Georgalis added a comment - Linux administration is not lightweight and agile like it was 10 years ago. It is not the best choice for a minimalist infrastructure. Any of the BSD flavors facilitate simplified infrastructure. It's easy to tell if you have to stand up a Linux box just to run the JIRA portion of Atlassian. OpenJDK support makes a big difference in deployment value at lean and agile sites.

            If I'm not mistaken, open JDK is open source whereas oracle JDK is not. Also, if I'm not mistaken JIRA is open source, or at least embraces the open source mentality. If both things are true, requiring the use of a closed source JDK seems incongruous. It would be very nice to see these two match up so that we don;t have to use tools that are encumbered by closed source foundations like Oracle's JDK.

            If I'm wrong on any point, feel free to correct me.

            Kris Boultbee added a comment - If I'm not mistaken, open JDK is open source whereas oracle JDK is not. Also, if I'm not mistaken JIRA is open source, or at least embraces the open source mentality. If both things are true, requiring the use of a closed source JDK seems incongruous. It would be very nice to see these two match up so that we don;t have to use tools that are encumbered by closed source foundations like Oracle's JDK. If I'm wrong on any point, feel free to correct me.

            All of us running jira on freebsd are forced to compile/install oracle-jdk, which depends on the linux compatible kernel module, that is only available in 32bit flavors - hence the jvm becomes 32bit - hence very low (2G) heapspace for jira.. i tried using openjdk_64bit (that is native to the 64bit OS), but the JVM instance coredumped spontanously, and the atlas-supportstaff told me that openjdk is not supported, only oracle-jdk is currently supported. This makes it impossible to host a sober jira instance on a sober operatingsystem like freebsd..

            i suppose (based on experience with other development requests in the atlassian support-void) that this issue will be discarded in the year 2025 (10 years from date), meanwhile hundreds of paying customers only way to get this into effect, is an advisory to tell and vote for this particular issue, still ending up in utter nothingness..

            but in naive hopes that my experience is not the trend, i've just voted for this issue. Please investigate and develop

            congo bongo added a comment - All of us running jira on freebsd are forced to compile/install oracle-jdk, which depends on the linux compatible kernel module, that is only available in 32bit flavors - hence the jvm becomes 32bit - hence very low (2G) heapspace for jira.. i tried using openjdk_64bit (that is native to the 64bit OS), but the JVM instance coredumped spontanously, and the atlas-supportstaff told me that openjdk is not supported, only oracle-jdk is currently supported. This makes it impossible to host a sober jira instance on a sober operatingsystem like freebsd.. i suppose (based on experience with other development requests in the atlassian support-void) that this issue will be discarded in the year 2025 (10 years from date), meanwhile hundreds of paying customers only way to get this into effect, is an advisory to tell and vote for this particular issue, still ending up in utter nothingness.. but in naive hopes that my experience is not the trend, i've just voted for this issue. Please investigate and develop

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