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As a user, I'd like to be able to use JQL for Epic Link for Next-Gen project epics

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      Atlassian Status as of 12 December 2019

      Hi everyone,

      Customers can query on Next-gen epics using the parent =. If you want to combine Epics from both project types, an example of such a query would be:
 "Epic Link" = NPC-6 OR parent = NJDP-5

      The Parent field can now be selected as a column in the Global Issue Navigator and exported from Jira.


      Regards,


      Nathan Sturgess
      nsturgess@atlassian.com

      Product Manager, JIRA Platform

      Original request description

      WIth the deploy of the epics and linking the issues to the epics at the Next-Gen projects we can't use the JQL to return issues that are associated to an epic as we can do for classic projects.

      Steps to reproduce

      1. Create a next-gen project
      2. Create an epic
      3. Associate multiple issues to the epic
      4. Go to Issue Navigator and try to perform the search by Epic Link referencing the Next-Gen epic
      5. No results are displayed

      Expected results

      Return the list of issues that are linked to the referenced Epic

      Actual results

      Use parent() function to show the child issues of the Epic. Example:

      parent = EPIC-123
      

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            [JSWCLOUD-17239] As a user, I'd like to be able to use JQL for Epic Link for Next-Gen project epics

            Please reopen and add support for timesheet functions.

            Michael (Admin) added a comment - Please reopen and add support for timesheet functions.

            Can you please reopen, as we need Tempo reports to list Project > Epic > Issue > Sub-Task, see problem description here https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-Software-questions/Tempo-report-doesn-t-show-Epics/qaq-p/1597821

            Anne-Marie Scheidegger added a comment - Can you please reopen, as we need Tempo reports to list Project > Epic > Issue > Sub-Task, see problem description here https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-Software-questions/Tempo-report-doesn-t-show-Epics/qaq-p/1597821

            Following for need Epic/Parent Name in the query results for macro in confluence.  it just shows key which is not helpful. like  in JQL results it shows parent name. 

             

            Shruti Anand added a comment - Following for need Epic/Parent Name in the query results for macro in confluence.  it just shows key which is not helpful. like  in JQL results it shows parent name.   

            I am able to pull the Epic/Parent name in the query but it only exports the Key.  Is there not a way to export the name also?  I could do this before moving to NextGen.  

            Linda Boone added a comment - I am able to pull the Epic/Parent name in the query but it only exports the Key.  Is there not a way to export the name also?  I could do this before moving to NextGen.  

            Hi guys!

            It looks like there is no real workaround apart from getting the child issues of the epic and then searching for subtasks of stories in the epic. And this solution only works for some one-off use cases.

            If you need full support for Epic->Story->Subtask hierarchies, consider our professional paid indexing service JQL Search Extensions for Jira Cloud.

            After you install the app you can get all issues under your epics:

            issue in childrenOfIssuesInQueryRecursive("key in (EPIC-1, EPIC-2)")

            I hope it's of help to at least some of you!

            Daniel Turczanski - 🔎JQL Search Extensions added a comment - Hi guys! It looks like there is no real workaround apart from getting the child issues of the epic and then searching for subtasks of stories in the epic. And this solution only works for some one-off use cases. If you need full support for Epic->Story->Subtask hierarchies, consider our professional paid indexing service JQL Search Extensions for Jira Cloud . After you install the app you can get all issues under your epics: issue in childrenOfIssuesInQueryRecursive("key in (EPIC-1, EPIC-2)") I hope it's of help to at least some of you!

            I have exactly the same problem with sub-tasks and it is driving me slightly mad.

            We have now had to ask the team to never log time under sub-tasks, otherwise it is time that just disappears.

            Quite frankly the issues with the changes to Epics and parents for next gen projects is baffling.

            Michael Trice added a comment - I have exactly the same problem with sub-tasks and it is driving me slightly mad. We have now had to ask the team to never log time under sub-tasks, otherwise it is time that just disappears. Quite frankly the issues with the changes to Epics and parents for next gen projects is baffling.

            Hi @Nathan Sturgess,

            Above solution works and it pulls only the Story, Task and Bugs under the epic but not the subtasks under the story.

            Actually I am trying to use the JQL in Tempo for Logged Time Report. In Classic Software project Filter by Epic works like a charm but since we moved to Next Gen project Filter by Epic is not working. As alternate solution I am trying to use JQL whereas the query appears as below. Problem here is, report pulls all the time logged under Story, Task and Bug issue types but the time logged under "subtasks" are not getting accounted.

            JQL: project = ER AND parent in (ER-2)
            ER-2 is the Epic
              ER-3 - Story 1
                ER-4 - Sub Task 1
                ER-5 - Sub Task 2

             ER-6 - Story 2
               ER-7 - Sub Task 1
               ER-8 - Sub Task 2

            What I am looking for?: My JQL should pull all the Story under Epic "ER-2" along with subtasks so that I can use the JQL in Tempo

            RamPrasanth.Jahadhishan added a comment - Hi @Nathan Sturgess, Above solution works and it pulls only the Story, Task and Bugs under the epic but not the subtasks under the story. Actually I am trying to use the JQL in Tempo for Logged Time Report. In Classic Software project Filter by Epic works like a charm but since we moved to Next Gen project Filter by Epic is not working . As alternate solution I am trying to use JQL whereas the query appears as below. Problem here is, report pulls all the time logged under Story, Task and Bug issue types but the time logged under "subtasks" are not getting accounted. JQL:  project = ER AND parent in (ER-2) ER-2 is the Epic   ER-3 - Story 1     ER-4 - Sub Task 1     ER-5 - Sub Task 2  ER-6 - Story 2    ER-7 - Sub Task 1    ER-8 - Sub Task 2 What I am looking for?:  My JQL should pull all the Story under Epic "ER-2" along with subtasks so that I can use the JQL in Tempo

            Took me forever to find this answer. Thankfully, it worked. 

            ShantaDotCa added a comment - Took me forever to find this answer. Thankfully, it worked. 

            That's worked.  Thanks @Nathan Sturgess

             

            Karen Fynn added a comment - That's worked.  Thanks @Nathan Sturgess  

            Hi karen5,

            Sorry for the inconvenience this has caused you, the bug has been triaged to be fixed.

            In the meantime there is a workout here: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRACLOUD-74373

            Regards,
            Nate

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi karen5 , Sorry for the inconvenience this has caused you, the bug has been triaged to be fixed. In the meantime there is a workout here: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRACLOUD-74373 Regards, Nate

            Karen Fynn added a comment -

            https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JSWCLOUD-17239?focusedCommentId=2327488&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-2327488

            Is there any update on this?  I am getting the same issue when I attempt to filter issues in a project by 'parent'.

            Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.

            My JQL is as follows

            project = MyProject AND parent = MyProject-163 ORDER BY created DESC
            

            Karen Fynn added a comment - https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JSWCLOUD-17239?focusedCommentId=2327488&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-2327488 Is there any update on this?  I am getting the same issue when I attempt to filter issues in a project by 'parent'. Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it. My JQL is as follows project = MyProject AND parent = MyProject-163 ORDER BY created DESC

            Scott Paden added a comment - - edited

            Forgive me, I see there is a new field called "Parent" and I can use that in my JQL fields.  I'm glad this is implemented. 

            Scott Paden added a comment - - edited Forgive me, I see there is a new field called "Parent" and I can use that in my JQL fields.  I'm glad this is implemented. 

            Hi akshat6 I have found the owner. Can you please email me directly nsturgess at atlassian dot com so that I can find out more info from you please?

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi akshat6 I have found the owner. Can you please email me directly nsturgess at atlassian dot com so that I can find out more info from you please?

            9fe4e369cb27 if you can please go to https://support.atlassian.com/, we can get someone to look into that for you.

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - 9fe4e369cb27 if you can please go to https://support.atlassian.com/ , we can get someone to look into that for you.

            Yuri Mikhel added a comment - - edited

            @Nathan Sturgress, I can't use 'parent' field in my next gen project, shows 'Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.' error. The other two fields (parentEpic and "Parent Link") don't work. Suggestions?

            Yuri Mikhel added a comment - - edited @Nathan Sturgress, I can't use 'parent' field in my next gen project, shows 'Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.' error. The other two fields (parentEpic and "Parent Link") don't work. Suggestions?

            akshat6 still chasing that up who owns that and finding out more info about the macro, just email me directly about it please so that it is not noisy here on this ticket. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - akshat6 still chasing that up who owns that and finding out more info about the macro, just email me directly about it please so that it is not noisy here on this ticket. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

            Akshat Dubey added a comment - - edited

            @Nathan Sturgess Thanks for the quick turnaround ! I was interested in getting the parent summary in the JIRA Issue/Filter macro in Confluence, and assumed it would be implemented along with the export feature. This still seems to be not possible right now, so would this be a quick fix too?

            Akshat Dubey added a comment - - edited @Nathan Sturgess Thanks for the quick turnaround ! I was interested in getting the parent summary in the JIRA Issue/Filter macro in Confluence, and assumed it would be implemented along with the export feature. This still seems to be not possible right now, so would this be a quick fix too?

            akshat6 We are rolling it out now, if you can't see it, you should see it shortly. After that please find your requested column in the exported file 🙂.

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - akshat6 We are rolling it out now, if you can't see it, you should see it shortly. After that please find your requested column in the exported file 🙂.

            christoph67 good point! Let me go look into that for you.

            johan.b.brodin yeah good question, we have discussed having something like decedentsOf = for any level of hierarchy (which means in theory would include a level above Epic). This was an internal request from another team but have not heard anything further to be honest.

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - christoph67 good point! Let me go look into that for you. johan.b.brodin yeah good question, we have discussed having something like decedentsOf = for any level of hierarchy (which means in theory would include a level above Epic). This was an internal request from another team but have not heard anything further to be honest.

            Is there any plans to support an easy JQL query to get all issues in the Epics including those issues subtasks? So the complete issue tree sitting below the epic. Could be something like parentAll = "EPIC-1"

            Johan Brodin added a comment - Is there any plans to support an easy JQL query to get all issues in the Epics including those issues subtasks? So the complete issue tree sitting below the epic. Could be something like parentAll = "EPIC-1"

            In Jira using JQL 'Parent' shows the 'Summary' of the parent, which is great.  However, in Confluence using JIRA Issue/Filter 'Parent' shows the 'Key' of the parent.  Bug?

            Christoph Huber added a comment - In Jira using JQL 'Parent' shows the 'Summary' of the parent, which is great.  However, in Confluence using JIRA Issue/Filter 'Parent' shows the 'Key' of the parent.  Bug?

            indrek5 Please ping me on nsturgess at Atlassian dot com thanks

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - indrek5 Please ping me on nsturgess at Atlassian dot com thanks

            I would love to as a next step to be able to use Automation for Jira scripts support assigning stories to epics (parents) in next gen. Manually assigning automatically created stories to parents is such a stupid hassle. Any insights- has this been under consideration, Nathan?

            Indrek Petti added a comment - I would love to as a next step to be able to use Automation for Jira scripts support assigning stories to epics (parents) in next gen. Manually assigning automatically created stories to parents is such a stupid hassle. Any insights- has this been under consideration, Nathan?

            0f2016f08d2b Classic Epics above are from Classic Projects (not next-gen) so they don't have a parent id.

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - 0f2016f08d2b Classic Epics above are from Classic Projects (not next-gen) so they don't have a parent id.

            Not via official API but there is enough information in Jira to use NextGet as if they were Software projects for many use cases. We have succeeded with this approach and support Epic Links for NexGent projects in our Links Hierarchy app from all the views (tree, graphs, matrixes).

            Pablo Beltran added a comment - Not via official API but there is enough information in Jira to use NextGet as if they were Software projects for many use cases. We have succeeded with this approach and support Epic Links for NexGent projects in our Links Hierarchy app from all the views (tree, graphs, matrixes).

            The resultset displayed for the JQL does not include parent-id in the specified column. Please check this.

            Kakarla Aravind added a comment - The resultset displayed for the JQL does not include parent-id in the specified column. Please check this.

            dan291554704 thanks for the kind words, I will pass it onto the guys 🤜🏻🤛🏻. In reply to the other comment, I want to give some context as to why we made it different, as I don't want you to think we are silly and rebuilding things just for the sake of it 😉.

            Epic link as you correctly stated wasn't broke for Epics, but has the caveat that it is a very specific solution that applies to only 1 level of hierarchy, namely Story|Bug|Task|etc->Epic. Parent provides a more general solution that can be used to link any level issue to one that is 1 level above in the hierarchy e.g.: Subtask->Story|Bug|Task|etc->Epic->?->?. I understand that this is frustrating right now (e.g. this ticket) and I am genuine when I say that this pains me to see people affected by some of these decisions, but over time, as Next-gen pans out, that decision will make more and more sense, will result in better ways of working and ultimately a better Jira.

            indrek5,.. great question, I can't answer that right now as I will need to go chase that up. Please ping me on nsturgess at Atlassian dot com (so we don't make the ticket really noisy) and I will get back to you about this.

            akshat6 no ticket needed, it will be in the next sprint 🙂.

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - dan291554704 thanks for the kind words, I will pass it onto the guys 🤜🏻🤛🏻. In reply to the other comment, I want to give some context as to why we made it different, as I don't want you to think we are silly and rebuilding things just for the sake of it 😉. Epic link as you correctly stated wasn't broke for Epics, but has the caveat that it is a very specific solution that applies to only 1 level of hierarchy, namely Story|Bug|Task|etc->Epic. Parent provides a more general solution that can be used to link any level issue to one that is 1 level above in the hierarchy e.g.: Subtask->Story|Bug|Task|etc->Epic->?->?. I understand that this is frustrating right now (e.g. this ticket) and I am genuine when I say that this pains me to see people affected by some of these decisions, but over time, as Next-gen pans out, that decision will make more and more sense, will result in better ways of working and ultimately a better Jira. indrek5 ,.. great question, I can't answer that right now as I will need to go chase that up. Please ping me on nsturgess at Atlassian dot com (so we don't make the ticket really noisy) and I will get back to you about this. akshat6 no ticket needed, it will be in the next sprint 🙂.

            @Nathen Sturgess, 

            I don't know if your comment might have got lost but I' like to extend my appreciation for persevering with this and rolling it out! Thanks!!

            I hope the community will also appreciate your efforts also!!!

            They do say the longest jobs yield the most satisfaction so kudos to you for all your effort, I'm glad you stayed focused on productivity while everyone else seems to have been pre-occupied changing the menu's and tampering with the look and feel (IHMO Wasn't broke, why tamper with it!).

            Don't suppose I can convince you to go for a double and resolve the darned "Parallel Sprints don't work in Next Gen" (JSWCLOUD-17195) issue too???? You may become the saviour of many an Agile Jira team!!! haha

            Merry Christmas to all you guys at Atlassian and everyone in the Jira community!!!! 

            Dan Walker added a comment - @Nathen Sturgess,  I don't know if your comment might have got lost but I' like to extend my appreciation for persevering with this and rolling it out! Thanks!! I hope the community will also appreciate your efforts also!!! They do say the longest jobs yield the most satisfaction so kudos to you for all your effort, I'm glad you stayed focused on productivity while everyone else seems to have been pre-occupied changing the menu's and tampering with the look and feel (IHMO Wasn't broke, why tamper with it!). Don't suppose I can convince you to go for a double and resolve the darned "Parallel Sprints don't work in Next Gen" ( JSWCLOUD-17195 ) issue too???? You may become the saviour of many an Agile Jira team!!! haha Merry Christmas to all you guys at Atlassian and everyone in the Jira community!!!! 

            @Andrea Della Corte,

            There's history in the channel comments, but it boils down to "Epic's are different in Next Gen". Don't ask me why, They where fine the way they where IMHO but Atlassian decided that was too complex for next gen, hardened them and now we have this bastardisation with a mix of `parent` and `Epic Link` for old and new....

            Dan Walker added a comment - @Andrea Della Corte, There's history in the channel comments, but it boils down to "Epic's are different in Next Gen". Don't ask me why, They where fine the way they where IMHO but Atlassian decided that was too complex for next gen, hardened them and now we have this bastardisation with a mix of `parent` and `Epic Link` for old and new....

            Jira portfolio already defined a parent link field, why not name the one for next-gen the same way?

            Andrea Della Corte added a comment - Jira portfolio already defined a parent link field, why not name the one for next-gen the same way?

            Indrek Petti added a comment - - edited

            Please make this field to be supported also in Jira Cloud for Sheets fields list. Currently it lets me pick it but the outcome is error saying that the field is not supported:

            Parent
            [field not supported]

            Indrek Petti added a comment - - edited Please make this field to be supported also in Jira Cloud for Sheets fields list. Currently it lets me pick it but the outcome is error saying that the field is not supported: Parent [field not supported]

            Agree with @Mike Stewart and @Noel Salt on the usefulness of the Epic summary in exports and when adding a table of issues on confluence. @Nathan Sturgess could we have a link to that ticket you just created?

            Akshat Dubey added a comment - Agree with @Mike Stewart and @Noel Salt on the usefulness of the Epic summary in exports and when adding a table of issues on confluence. @Nathan Sturgess could we have a link to that ticket you just created?

            Hi,

            We didn’t export summary because it doesn't have the same character limit like Epic Link does and Jira doesn’t support importing a parent by its summary.

            I have just opened a ticket to add Summary to the export (and keep the id) this way it will be more readable whilst still allowing import via the id. The work is fairly trivial so shouldn't be long. Thanks for the feedback mike.stewart and 8eb427be466b.

            Regards,
            Nate

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi, We didn’t export summary because it doesn't have the same character limit like Epic Link does and Jira doesn’t support importing a parent by its summary. I have just opened a ticket to add Summary to the export (and keep the id) this way it will be more readable whilst still allowing import via the id. The work is fairly trivial so shouldn't be long. Thanks for the feedback mike.stewart and 8eb427be466b . Regards, Nate

            Hi. The text description (rather than ID) when exporting would be very useful for reporting purposes.

            Mike Stewart added a comment - Hi. The text description (rather than ID) when exporting would be very useful for reporting purposes.

            Noel Salt added a comment -

            Issues list shows the EPIC Summary description text now in the Parent field. But wen exporting an issues list to CSV the numerical ID for the EPIC is given (not the text description). Is there a way to get the text description to come through in an exported list? Thanks.

            Noel Salt added a comment - Issues list shows the EPIC Summary description text now in the Parent field. But wen exporting an issues list to CSV the numerical ID for the EPIC is given (not the text description). Is there a way to get the text description to come through in an exported list? Thanks.

            Hi guys, we had a bit of a delay but this is now fully rolled out.

            You are now able to select the Parent column in the Global Issue Navigator and have the parent information show in the exported file.

            Regards,
            Nate

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi guys, we had a bit of a delay but this is now fully rolled out. You are now able to select the Parent column in the Global Issue Navigator and have the parent information show in the exported file. Regards, Nate

            Dan Walker added a comment - - edited

            As Jason said!

            Happy Birthday JSWCLOUD-17239!  

            Despite Nathan's best efforts to nurture this problem child, Next Gen definitely seems to be suffering from Gen X issues. After a year of effort Next gen continues to struggle to grown up and gain the functionality and flexibility of an Agile system, like its predecessors the classic project. Failing to look up to it's peers it seems more focused the last year on changing its look and standing out, despite the fact that many people are at odds with how it's dressed itself, and how this new look has itself caused issues like creating linked issues from one project to another.

            Here's hoping this year some maturity emerges in the Next Gen project, Epics start to resolve in a decent manner, parallel sprinting returns (JSWCLOUD-17195 ), custom workflow support (JSWCLOUD-17434 ) (to name just a couple) and grows into a nice responsible platform that can support various scales of enterprise instead of the junior school, entry level Agile/Kanban it seems to be currently....

            Happy Birthday and here's to your future, we all wish you well and just remember we are all behind you!

            /me creates classic project

            Dan Walker added a comment - - edited As Jason said! Happy Birthday JSWCLOUD-17239 !   Despite Nathan's best efforts to nurture this problem child, Next Gen definitely seems to be suffering from Gen X issues. After a year of effort Next gen continues to struggle to grown up and gain the functionality and flexibility of an Agile system, like its predecessors the classic project. Failing to look up to it's peers it seems more focused the last year on changing its look and standing out, despite the fact that many people are at odds with how it's dressed itself, and how this new look has itself caused issues like creating linked issues from one project to another. Here's hoping this year some maturity emerges in the Next Gen project, Epics start to resolve in a decent manner, parallel sprinting returns ( JSWCLOUD-17195 ), custom workflow support ( JSWCLOUD-17434 ) (to name just a couple) and grows into a nice responsible platform that can support various scales of enterprise instead of the junior school, entry level Agile/Kanban it seems to be currently.... Happy Birthday and here's to your future, we all wish you well and just remember we are all behind you! /me creates classic project

            Hi dave1406477931,

            Just a heads up, there is a way to tell the difference between next-gen and classic projects.
            https://developer.atlassian.com/cloud/jira/platform/rest/v3/#api-rest-api-3-project-projectIdOrKey-get
            There is a style property

            Regards,
            Nathan

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi dave1406477931 , Just a heads up, there is a way to tell the difference between next-gen and classic projects. https://developer.atlassian.com/cloud/jira/platform/rest/v3/#api-rest-api-3-project-projectIdOrKey-get There is a style property Regards, Nathan

            Happy Birthday @JSWCLOUD-17239 !!     How has your first year Unresolved been?  Its definitely been a long one for us, putting off all our dreams for using NextGen. 

            The "parent=" rollout of 10-Sep (thanks Nathan!) isnt really very useful in practice without the rest of this (and JSWCLOUD-17479)

            I really fear for the life of your real parent (Atlassian) if this takes a year or more to get done.   Hopefully NextGen is working better for market expansion than the public beta bit...... 

             

            Jason.Creak added a comment - Happy Birthday @ JSWCLOUD-17239 !!     How has your first year Unresolved been?  Its definitely been a long one for us, putting off all our dreams for using NextGen.  The "parent=" rollout of 10-Sep (thanks Nathan!) isnt really very useful in practice without the rest of this (and  JSWCLOUD-17479 ) I really fear for the life of your real parent (Atlassian) if this takes a year or more to get done.   Hopefully NextGen is working better for market expansion than the public beta bit......   

            Kyle added a comment -

            Thanks for the response Dave. It sounds like this is an Atlassian issue, then.

            Kyle added a comment - Thanks for the response Dave. It sounds like this is an Atlassian issue, then.

            Dave Elkan added a comment -

            Sorry for the delay, Kyle. 

            Unfortunately Atlassian don't provide a way to prevent showing a side-bar item based on whether the project is nextgen or not. We can only tell whether it is a software project or not, not next-gen or classic. 

            The good news is that we are starting work on support for next-gen projects today as we believe all of the APIs we require are now live.

            Thanks

            ~Dave Elkan

            Co-CEO, Easy Agile

            Dave Elkan added a comment - Sorry for the delay, Kyle.  Unfortunately Atlassian don't provide a way to prevent showing a side-bar item based on whether the project is nextgen or not. We can only tell whether it is a software project or not, not next-gen or classic.  The good news is that we are starting work on support for next-gen projects today as we believe all of the APIs we require are now live. Thanks ~Dave Elkan Co-CEO, Easy Agile

            Kyle added a comment -

            If this isn't implemented (and hasn't been for a year), why must a non-removable "User Story Map" item appear on my Jira sidebar?

            Kyle added a comment - If this isn't implemented (and hasn't been for a year), why must a non-removable "User Story Map" item appear on my Jira sidebar?

            Has this ticket been picked up yet?

            I don't know how you prioritize work . But, this seem to be basic and highly impacting multiple teams.

            Kakarla Aravind added a comment - Has this ticket been picked up yet? I don't know how you prioritize work . But, this seem to be basic and highly impacting multiple teams.

            Echo-ing those above, this has been the biggest pain-point of Jira for me. I need the following capabilities:

            1. Finding issues for an Epic in Basic search
            2. Seeing which Epic is the parent of a given set of issues in the list view and exported data.

            The lack of this basic feature (for over a year) adds hours a month to my workflow.

            I used to defend Jira in conversation when someone would complain about it.

            Now, I am actively and vocally telling people in my circles to avoid Jira becasue of this basic missed requirement.

            Jonathan Kaczynski added a comment - Echo-ing those above, this has been the biggest pain-point of Jira for me. I need the following capabilities: Finding issues for an Epic in Basic search Seeing which Epic is the parent of a given set of issues in the list view and exported data. The lack of this basic feature (for over a year) adds hours a month to my workflow. I used to defend Jira in conversation when someone would complain about it. Now, I am actively and vocally telling people in my circles to avoid Jira becasue of this basic missed requirement.

            I agree with @rma's comment ^. This is exactly what I've been researching and trying to accomplish as our team moves from classic to next-gen. In order to properly report back to business stakeholders, I need to show a table of issues with their associated parent/epic link. Thank you!

            Elizabeth Nixon added a comment - I agree with @rma's comment ^. This is exactly what I've been researching and trying to accomplish as our team moves from classic to next-gen. In order to properly report back to business stakeholders, I need to show a table of issues with their associated parent/epic link. Thank you!

            I'd like to add an acceptance criteria: 

            The epic link and epic name (or parent link and name) should be displayed correctly in the issue navigator. 

            Currently that is not the case. To my knowledge there is currently no way to get a report that displays all issues and their epic. Which is one of the most basic reports I want to present to stakeholders.

            Robert Masur added a comment - I'd like to add an acceptance criteria:  The epic link and epic name (or parent link and name) should be displayed correctly in the issue navigator.  Currently that is not the case. To my knowledge there is currently no way to get a report that displays all issues and their epic. Which is one of the most basic reports I want to present to stakeholders.

            Hi heidi12,

            No hassle, but to correctly set expectations this won't be delivered this quarter. We are about to pickup the fix version field, which will unblock Releases in Next-gen projects. The remaining functionality on this ticket will follow immediately after that but this wouldn't be started in this quarter. I know that is frustrating to hear and I know this feature is half baked without it, that is why it is up next.

            Regards,
            Nathan

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi heidi12 , No hassle, but to correctly set expectations this won't be delivered this quarter. We are about to pickup the fix version field, which will unblock Releases in Next-gen projects. The remaining functionality on this ticket will follow immediately after that but this wouldn't be started in this quarter. I know that is frustrating to hear and I know this feature is half baked without it, that is why it is up next. Regards, Nathan

            Heidi Maul Jars added a comment - - edited

            Hi Nathan.

            Sorry to be a hassel, but do you have any idea of when the above is implemented?

            I have quite a tight deadline for making search for Issues based on an Epic work, and I just need to know if we are looking at a few weeks, a month or more. 

            I really don't feel like spending a lot of time on migration, if it will be up and running within a few weeks.

            TIA.

            Br

            Heidi Maul Jars 

            Heidi Maul Jars added a comment - - edited Hi Nathan. Sorry to be a hassel, but do you have any idea of when the above is implemented? I have quite a tight deadline for making search for Issues based on an Epic work, and I just need to know if we are looking at a few weeks, a month or more.  I really don't feel like spending a lot of time on migration, if it will be up and running within a few weeks. TIA. Br Heidi Maul Jars 

            Hi lbowers1,

            You are correct that the column is missing and I agree with you, it is frustrating. Furthermore as you stated the move operation is lossy, which is something we also need to address.

            On the 17th of May I called out:

            _That we need to solve the problem of:

            1. Finding issues for an Epic in Basic search
            2. Seeing which Epic is the parent of a given set of issues in the list view and exported data._

            This is next up after we finish up some current Epic API work. So please hang in there a little longer.

            Regards,
            Nathan

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - Hi lbowers1 , You are correct that the column is missing and I agree with you, it is frustrating. Furthermore as you stated the move operation is lossy, which is something we also need to address. On the 17th of May I called out: _That we need to solve the problem of: Finding issues for an Epic in Basic search Seeing which Epic is the parent of a given set of issues in the list view and exported data._ This is next up after we finish up some current Epic API work. So please hang in there a little longer. Regards, Nathan

            I understand that I can search for an item under a specific epic (parent) in next-gen, but the column displays incorrectly. Will this be addressed in this issue? This, and the fact that epics in classic projects lost their link is very frustrating when we migrated.

            Laura Bowers added a comment - I understand that I can search for an item under a specific epic (parent) in next-gen, but the column displays incorrectly. Will this be addressed in this issue? This, and the fact that epics in classic projects lost their link is very frustrating when we migrated.

            Hi fowler1445671014, sounds like a very frustrating day. In reply to the messaging of Next-gen projects and their functionality, I agree we could have done a better job. Getting that messaging right and clearly setting expectations has been challenging. You stated you have more advanced needs, therefore I recommend that until we offer great feature parity your needs will be best served by continuing to use Classic Jira projects.

            Hi jared1749702429, the REST API functionality is being worked on right now. Can you please email me directly about the “Field ‘parent’ does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.“? I want to look into that more.

            Regards,
            Nathan

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi fowler1445671014 , sounds like a very frustrating day. In reply to the messaging of Next-gen projects and their functionality, I agree we could have done a better job. Getting that messaging right and clearly setting expectations has been challenging. You stated you have more advanced needs, therefore I recommend that until we offer great feature parity your needs will be best served by continuing to use Classic Jira projects. Hi jared1749702429 , the REST API functionality is being worked on right now. Can you please email me directly about the “Field ‘parent’ does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.“ ? I want to look into that more. Regards, Nathan

            HI Nathan,

            Great to see some progress on this, on some of our test instances the parent= JQL search is working as expected, others are displaying an error message "Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.". This is fine I'm sure you'll get the fix out to everyone eventually!

            I'm also seeing the parent field populated in the rest API which is fantastic.

            This gives us almost everything we need to support Next Gen projects in our add-ons. The final missing piece is the ability to update the link via the REST API. It currently accepts the request but doesn't change the link. I wasn't able to find a JSWCLOUD ticket explicitly for this functionality, are you able to shed some light on this.

             

            Kind Regards,
            Jared Kells ( Easy Agile )

            Jared Kells added a comment - HI Nathan, Great to see some progress on this, on some of our test instances the parent= JQL search is working as expected, others are displaying an error message "Field 'parent' does not exist or you do not have permission to view it.". This is fine I'm sure you'll get the fix out to everyone eventually! I'm also seeing the parent field populated in the rest API which is fantastic. This gives us almost everything we need to support Next Gen projects in our add-ons. The final missing piece is the ability to update the link via the REST API. It currently accepts the request but doesn't change the link. I wasn't able to find a JSWCLOUD ticket explicitly for this functionality, are you able to shed some light on this.   Kind Regards, Jared Kells ( Easy Agile )

            Fowler added a comment - - edited

             

            Disclaimer/Warning

            Finding this issue caught me at the end of an extremely frustrating day unrelated to this. Delete if you feel it derails from the issue, but please share with someone who can do something or provide a meaningful response. 

            First, this Next Gen rollout has been an absolute joke. The people who are most eager to "pull the trigger" on a Next Gen project, are the same people who consider themselves power users. To have RUDIMENTARY omissions from early stage rollout, such as the lack of JQL querying of Epic Links, does nothing to improve my opinion of where Jira is going. Despite communications last November saying that subtasks were "hopefully on the way before the end of the year", I've held onto the idea that Next Gen provides better functionality for my team. But month after month, no meaningful features are shipped, and more and more limitations are uncovered.

            I recognize that legacy Jira is getting "long in the tooth", and as with every piece of software that is successful enough to need a "reboot", the transition will be painful. What really gets me is the poor communication about:

            1. Which features will absolutely not work or will have limited support (eg: JQL For Epic Links)
            2. When roadmap features may be released (I only learned about the subtask limited beta
              from parsing @nsturgess comment above)
            3. Who the target audience for Next Gen projects is (this has been improved recently, but too late for us)

            And this comment is nearly indecipherable, making me further question the team that I'm putting faith into solving these problems:

            So there were a small cohort of customers that were help back from the release do to some bugs, ...

            ---- 

            I WAS excited to get my team on the Next Gen project, but seemingly every week I find a new reason to regret that decision. You're burning your most devoted users and from my perspective, the near-term future is NOT looking good.

             

            Fowler added a comment - - edited   Disclaimer/Warning Finding this issue caught me at the end of an extremely frustrating day unrelated to this. Delete if you feel it derails from the issue, but please share with someone who can do something or provide a meaningful response.  First, this Next Gen rollout has been an absolute joke. The people who are most eager to "pull the trigger" on a Next Gen project, are the same people who consider themselves power users. To have RUDIMENTARY omissions from early stage rollout, such as the lack of JQL querying of Epic Links, does nothing to improve my opinion of where Jira is going. Despite communications last November saying that subtasks were "hopefully on the way before the end of the year", I've held onto the idea that Next Gen provides better functionality for my team. But month after month, no meaningful features are shipped, and more and more limitations are uncovered. I recognize that legacy Jira is getting "long in the tooth", and as with every piece of software that is successful enough to need a "reboot", the transition will be painful. What really gets me is the poor communication about: Which features will absolutely not work or will have limited support (eg: JQL For Epic Links) When roadmap features may be released (I only learned about the subtask limited beta from parsing @nsturgess comment above) Who the target audience for Next Gen projects is (this has been improved recently, but too late for us) And this comment is nearly indecipherable, making me further question the team that I'm putting faith into solving these problems: So there were a small cohort of customers that were help back from the release do to some bugs, ... ----  I WAS excited to get my team on the Next Gen project, but seemingly every week I find a new reason to regret that decision. You're burning your most devoted users and from my perspective, the near-term future is NOT looking good.  

            Hi brandon32,

            So there were a small cohort of customers that were held back from the release due to some bugs, there is a chance that you might be in that cohort. But first, can you go into Project settings->Issue types. If there is no Subtask issue type can you please click "+ Add issue type". You should should see Subtask as an issue type there.

            If you could me know the outcome please, probably best to email me direct at nsturgess at atlassian dot com.

            Regards,
            Nathan

            Nathan Sturgess (Inactive) added a comment - - edited Hi brandon32 , So there were a small cohort of customers that were held back from the release due to some bugs, there is a chance that you might be in that cohort. But first, can you go into Project settings->Issue types. If there is no Subtask issue type can you please click "+ Add issue type". You should should see Subtask as an issue type there. If you could me know the outcome please, probably best to email me direct at nsturgess at atlassian dot com. Regards, Nathan

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