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      Status Update 18 Oct 2022

      👋 Hi all, Ethan from the Atlassian Editor Team here. As always, thank you for the continuous feedback on how we may improve the editing experience in Confluence, and the wider Atlassian product suite. I wanted to share that our team has been reviewing the feedback for this issue, and are keen to solve for ways of enabling authors to format lists to their liking, without breaking the numbering of an ordered list

       

      We recognise this issue presents a significant challenge to create professional looking documentation, particularly when more complex sequencing of content is required. The current workaround of using shift + enter to create a newline to support the insertion of content without disrupting the numbering isn’t suitable for nodes which can’t currently be nested in lists at all (e.g. tables, panels, expands etc.).

      From the feedback, we are focusing on addressing the following use cases:

      1. Ability to start an ordered list from any number
      2. Ability to continue the numbering in lists when split 

       

      What is not under consideration for the scope of this current project is to support nesting of more content types in lists. Whilst there may be legitimate use cases to support for additional nesting (e.g. macros in lists), we recognise the core of the problem is primarily not wanting to break the sequence/count of a numbered list, especially with non-text content.

       

      My team and I are exploring a few backwards compatible approaches at the moment that are aimed at not breaking existing content/storage formats, and aligned with interaction patterns you’ve come to expect from other notable rich-text editors. To ensure we’re on the right track, I invite you to schedule some time with my team and I to provide feedback on our approach and working assumptions using my 30 minute meeting link.

       

      Thanks all and stay safe,

      Ethan

       

       

      By default, when using a numbered list, the only method to continue the numbers is if the user either hits Enter (or shift+Enter to add something between the numbers and then, continue it with Enter).

      In certain scenarios, users use layouts to put an image/macro at the side of the numbered list. In this case, if the user adds a new layout, there is no method to continue the numbered list and the user must add a new one that will start from the number 1.

      Suggestion

      This is a suggestion to allow numbered lists to continue in the next layout in order to allow steps to use images at their right side.

      At the moment, the closest workaround would be to:

      • Include the image between the current numbered list (not using layouts) by using Shift+Enter and then Enter to go to the next number.
      • In a table, use the Numbered column option for each of the numbered points instead of layouts.

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            [CONFCLOUD-70868] Continuous numbered list between layouts

            Rangi added a comment -

            It would be nice if we could just adjust the starting number for lists <ol>'s that are broken.

            That is possible today by simply typing the number you want as the first item in the list continuation (e.g. just enter "4. " to start a list that begins at item 4). It's also possible to split an existing list by pressing return twice after an existing item in the list.

            However, both of these approach create two disconnected lists. If you later add an item to the first list (so it now has a 4th item to continue the example above), the second lists starting number is not updated. It would be nice if the two lists could be linked.

            What is not under consideration for the scope of this current project is to support nesting of more content types in lists.

            This is typically the desire, especially if lists cannot be linked when broken. The common use case is a how-to document with multiple steps that may involve notes, tables, code blocks, etc. as part of a step. Allowing continuation of a list with dynamic numbering could alleviate the need for nested content, but nesting is the most natural approach.

            Rangi added a comment - It would be nice if we could just adjust the starting number for lists <ol>'s that are broken. That is possible today by simply typing the number you want as the first item in the list continuation (e.g. just enter "4. " to start a list that begins at item 4). It's also possible to split an existing list by pressing return twice after an existing item in the list. However, both of these approach create two disconnected lists. If you later add an item to the first list (so it now has a 4th item to continue the example above), the second lists starting number is not updated. It would be nice if the two lists could be linked. What is not under consideration for the scope of this current project is to support nesting of more content types in lists. This is typically the desire, especially if lists cannot be linked when broken. The common use case is a how-to document with multiple steps that may involve notes, tables, code blocks, etc. as part of a step. Allowing continuation of a list with dynamic numbering could alleviate the need for nested content, but nesting is the most natural approach.

            Corey R added a comment -

            It would be nice if we could just adjust the starting number for lists <ol>'s that are broken. I have numerous lists within callouts, and images, that are broken but are much too large to rebuild. Being able to simply set the starting number is not perfect, but it would allow us to fix our numbered lists without rebuilding them all. 

            Corey R added a comment - It would be nice if we could just adjust the starting number for lists <ol>'s that are broken. I have numerous lists within callouts, and images, that are broken but are much too large to rebuild. Being able to simply set the starting number is not perfect, but it would allow us to fix our numbered lists without rebuilding them all. 

            Still waiting a solution.... 

            Giordano Settimo added a comment - Still waiting a solution.... 

            Matthew Lowrey added a comment - - edited

            Hello All,

            I'm not sure if this actually applies to resolving this 100%, but I've been able to successfully complete the 2 items bulleted above under the new Confluence writing.  Here's an example from one of my KB articles.

            I tried to capture a few items (/warning element & /expand element) where I've started new ordered lists within the expand elements then "continue" with the ordered list below expand elements.

            Hope this helps.

            EDIT: Looks like we're not able to paste screenshots into our comments or upload attachments to share.  Unless there's a approval process in place or I'm just dumb... so.. to ensure y'all have my example:

            Confluence Ordered List Example

            Matthew Lowrey added a comment - - edited Hello All, I'm not sure if this actually applies to resolving this 100%, but I've been able to successfully complete the 2 items bulleted above under the new Confluence writing.  Here's an example from one of my KB articles. I tried to capture a few items (/warning element & /expand element) where I've started new ordered lists within the expand elements then "continue" with the ordered list below expand elements. Hope this helps. EDIT: Looks like we're not able to paste screenshots into our comments or upload attachments to share.  Unless there's a approval process in place or I'm just dumb... so.. to ensure y'all have my example: Confluence Ordered List Example

            1. This is STILL not implemented? 
            2. The last update is form Oct of 2022?
            3. Seriously considering moving away from Confluence as a knowledge base platform.

            Loren Andersen added a comment - This is STILL not implemented?  The last update is form Oct of 2022? Seriously considering moving away from Confluence as a knowledge base platform.

            Every time I start adding a note to a Confluence page, I give up because some basic features, like continuous numbered lists, don’t work. This is ridiculous. It’s better to write on a bread paper!

            Paulo Portugal added a comment - Every time I start adding a note to a Confluence page, I give up because some basic features, like continuous numbered lists, don’t work. This is ridiculous. It’s better to write on a bread paper!

            stu.thom added a comment -

            b44ee328bea8 did this progress past the dogfooding stage? The demos look promising! 

            stu.thom added a comment - b44ee328bea8 did this progress past the dogfooding stage? The demos look promising! 

            Has there been any progress made on this request? It looks like it's been outstanding for nearly four years. In the meantime we've had to begin manually typing in numbers for steps, which puts us in an odd spot with accessibility, and also means inserting a step later means manually renumbering every step after it. 

            Michael Vaughn added a comment - Has there been any progress made on this request? It looks like it's been outstanding for nearly four years. In the meantime we've had to begin manually typing in numbers for steps, which puts us in an odd spot with accessibility, and also means inserting a step later means manually renumbering every step after it. 

            Loren Andersen added a comment - - edited

            This is like 1990 functionality. Please get this fixed ASAP. Incredibly frustrating.

            Loren Andersen added a comment - - edited This is like 1990 functionality. Please get this fixed ASAP. Incredibly frustrating.

            Will this be available in the legacy editor as well as the new?

            Debra Graham added a comment - Will this be available in the legacy editor as well as the new?

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