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      Issue Summary

      When rendering a page as full-width in the new editor, there's a large amount of whitespace on both the left and the right side. 

      Users want to be able to use full-width so their pages utilize as much horizontal space as the page allows. 

      Steps to Reproduce

      1. Create a page in the new Confluence editor.
      2. Switch to Make page full-width
      3. Make sure your browser window is maximized to the full page so you can see the amount of whitespace that is left behind.

      Expected Results

      The page should stretch from one side of the editor window to the other.

      Actual Results

      In this case, there's a large amount of unused space.

      Workaround

      No current workaround.

            [CONFCLOUD-68780] Making page full-width does not render page as full-width

            This should absolutely be a bug, not a suggestion. "Intentional design decision" to leave anybody who uses a decent size monitor with a TON of white space on either side of a narrow channel of text, is bordering on insanity.

            Please, try and actually use your product in a way that your users would, and see that a table with any more than 10 columns completely shrinks the width of columns down to the point where text is not readable, i.e. 1 word per line. How is this acceptable and "intended"?

            What's funnier is zooming out also shrinks the width of the table, leaving even more white space on each side.

            How have you got this so drastically wrong?

            Ashley Daley added a comment - This should absolutely be a bug, not a suggestion. "Intentional design decision" to leave anybody who uses a decent size monitor with a TON of white space on either side of a narrow channel of text, is bordering on insanity. Please, try and actually use your product in a way that your users would, and see that a table with any more than 10 columns completely shrinks the width of columns down to the point where text is not readable, i.e. 1 word per line. How is this acceptable and "intended"? What's funnier is zooming out also shrinks the width of the table, leaving even more white space on each side. How have you got this so drastically wrong?

            t.heim added a comment -

            Why not allowing 3 types of page widths?

            • Standard
            • Wider (the today's "Full-Width", which isn't one)
            • Full-Width (a REAL full width)

            Shouldn't be that difficult to implement, right?

            t.heim added a comment - Why not allowing 3 types of page widths? Standard Wider (the today's "Full-Width", which isn't one) Full-Width (a REAL full width) Shouldn't be that difficult to implement, right?

            "Aid in readability" is a cheap excuse. Fix your product. 

            Odd Rune Lykkebø added a comment - "Aid in readability" is a cheap excuse. Fix your product. 

            "The issue type has been changed from a bug to a suggestion because the issue is an intentional design decision.  The width of content is limited to aid in readability."

            There are a lot of highly talented people using these tools and best practices usually come from bottom-up and daily usage. How about letting the Content Creator experts decide whats best for them, and their users? 

            Unless there is some industry study that suggest that huge empty spaces improves readability based on eye movements and brain scans, please let the experts work as best they know, not the best the design team can imagine.

            Matias Bolyos added a comment - "The issue type has been changed from a bug to a suggestion because the issue is an intentional design decision.  The width of content is limited to aid in readability." There are a lot of highly talented people using these tools and best practices usually come from bottom-up and daily usage. How about letting the Content Creator experts decide whats best for them, and their users?  Unless there is some industry study that suggest that huge empty spaces improves readability based on eye movements and brain scans, please let the experts work as best they know, not the best the design team can imagine.

            Rolf Olsen added a comment -

            Thank you @John, yes I've made sure to create an empty template using the old trusty editor.

            However, the problem applies to everybody's content in our organisation, and it's disappointing that we have to resort to hacks to make our pages readable

            Rolf Olsen added a comment - Thank you @John, yes I've made sure to create an empty template using the old trusty editor. However, the problem applies to everybody's content in our organisation, and it's disappointing that we have to resort to hacks to make our pages readable

            John Tolle added a comment -

            @Rolf, there is a dirty hack that some folks have found allows them to keep using the old editor for things it's better at like large tables.  If you have any pages that were built with the old editor (assuming you didn't mass convert everything to the new editor), you can copy one of those, delete all content, then save it as a "template" of sorts.  Copy it for any new page you want to create with big tables.

            John Tolle added a comment - @Rolf, there is a dirty hack that some folks have found allows them to keep using the old editor for things it's better at like large tables.  If you have any pages that were built with the old editor (assuming you didn't mass convert everything to the new editor), you can copy one of those, delete all content, then save it as a "template" of sorts.  Copy it for any new page you want to create with big tables.

            Rolf Olsen added a comment - - edited

            Don't understand this design decision at all either. Why should the content not simply expand to fit the width of whatever device is being used? I don’t see any purpose whatsoever in limiting the width of the content, as users can adjust their window size to suit their own needs anyway.

            We have recently migrated to the cloud version and are struggling with using large tables in Confluence now. Most of my colleagues are facing similar issues and it’s so disappointing that the cloud version has limitations and is more difficult to use than the old version (page width is just one example). I’m concerned that fewer people in our organization will be using Confluence because of these difficulties, which will be a real shame as the tool has been brilliant for us so far, prior to migrating to cloud.

            Rolf Olsen added a comment - - edited Don't understand this design decision at all either. Why should the content not simply expand to fit the width of whatever device is being used? I don’t see any purpose whatsoever in limiting the width of the content, as users can adjust their window size to suit their own needs anyway. We have recently migrated to the cloud version and are struggling with using large tables in Confluence now. Most of my colleagues are facing similar issues and it’s so disappointing that the cloud version has limitations and is more difficult to use than the old version (page width is just one example). I’m concerned that fewer people in our organization will be using Confluence because of these difficulties, which will be a real shame as the tool has been brilliant for us so far, prior to migrating to cloud.

            Bruno De Zwaef added a comment - - edited

            @Atlassian - any progress here????

            This BUG is super annoying because we use a lot of large tables that require more space than the offered "full width" option.

            This should be low-hanging fruit...

             

            ...I just stumbled on this: "The width of content is limited to aid in readability."

            Have you ever tried to read a table cell with the content of each cell spreading vertically over 10 to 15 lines???

            It is quite the opposite: the table becomes totally unreadable.

            Bruno De Zwaef added a comment - - edited @Atlassian - any progress here???? This BUG is super annoying because we use a lot of large tables that require more space than the offered "full width" option. This should be low-hanging fruit...   ...I just stumbled on this: "The width of content is limited to aid in readability." Have you ever tried to read a table cell with the content of each cell spreading vertically over 10 to 15 lines??? It is quite the opposite: the table becomes totally unreadable.

            I can get on board with the entire page not expanding to full width for readability (although I would argue that should be up to the user because you already have formats that keep the content in a thinner column), but this should not be the case for tables.

            For tables, the whole point of being able to zoom out (or have very wide monitors) is to be able to see the entire table without horizontal scrolling.  I'll admit that tables aren't the sole focus of this issue, but they should be allowed to go truly full width.  There are other table-related issues floating around out there, but assuming none are specifically about truly full width tables, perhaps this one could be changed to focus the issue on tables at full width.

            John Tolle added a comment - I can get on board with the entire page not expanding to full width for readability (although I would argue that should be up to the user because you already have formats that keep the content in a thinner column), but this should not be the case for tables. For tables, the whole point of being able to zoom out (or have very wide monitors) is to be able to see the entire table without horizontal scrolling.  I'll admit that tables aren't the sole focus of this issue, but they should be allowed to go truly full width.  There are other table-related issues floating around out there, but assuming none are specifically about truly full width tables, perhaps this one could be changed to focus the issue on tables at full width.

            Hi everyone,

            The issue type has been changed from a bug to a suggestion because the issue is an intentional design decision.  The width of content is limited to aid in readability.

            The ticket is left open to gather feedback for the design teams.

            Changing the ticket status comes from a different team so coordinating the timing can be off at times.

            ME (Inactive) added a comment - Hi everyone, The issue type has been changed from a bug to a suggestion because the issue is an intentional design decision.  The width of content is limited to aid in readability. The ticket is left open to gather feedback for the design teams. Changing the ticket status comes from a different team so coordinating the timing can be off at times.

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