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Resolution: Won't Fix
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your votes and comments on this suggestion. Your voice means a lot to us.
We're excited to announce that from now on clustering is officially supported and available for everyone in Crowd Data Center.
This is the newest addition to Atlassian's Data Center family, which brings you high availability and uninterrupted access as well as all the features of Crowd Server.
Crowd DC is also great at scaling – you can easily expand your DC with extra nodes that will pull all the necessary configuration from the shared file system, and join the cluster without any extra setup.
Crowd Data Center is delivered in the Crowd 3.0 release together with support for Microsoft Azure Active Directory.
We highly recommend you to upgrade your current Crowd version to the latest one. In case if you will require any help or assistance in setting up Crowd Data Center or have further questions please don't hesitate to get in touch with me directly at mradochonski@atlassian.com
Please read the upgrade notes for important information about this release before installing the newest version.
To learn more about Crowd Data Center, check out our technical documentation, technical FAQ, and licensing FAQ.
You can download Crowd 3.0 from here.
If you are ready to get started then get a Crowd Data Center license, or try it out for free.
Thanks,
Marek Radochonski
Senior Product Manager, Crowd
Hi folks,
Thanks for your feedback and continued support. We wanted to give you an update on the status of this issue.
Over the medium term, the direction we're taking with Crowd is to focus on scalability, reliability and performance. Exciting development has occurred and is going to continue within this space. This feature is a strong candidate for a future release. We can't promise a specific release, but we'll update the issue when we have more concrete information.
Regards,
Eugene Mak
Atlassian Product Management
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[CWD-266] Clusterable Crowd Documentation
| Workflow | Original: JAC Suggestion Workflow [ 3389132 ] | New: JAC Suggestion Workflow 3 [ 3628560 ] |
| Status | Original: RESOLVED [ 5 ] | New: Closed [ 6 ] |
| Workflow | Original: Simplified Crowd Development Workflow v2 [ 1392396 ] | New: JAC Suggestion Workflow [ 3389132 ] |
| Issue Type | Original: Improvement [ 4 ] | New: Suggestion [ 10000 ] |
| Description |
Original:
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Hi folks, Thanks for your feedback and continued support. We wanted to give you an update on the status of this issue. Over the medium term, the direction we're taking with Crowd is to focus on scalability, reliability and performance. Exciting development has occurred and is going to continue within this space. This feature is a strong candidate for a future release. We can't promise a specific release, but we'll update the issue when we have more concrete information. Regards, Eugene Mak Atlassian Product Management {panel} |
New:
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Hi everyone, Thanks for all your votes and comments on this suggestion. Your voice means a lot to us. We're excited to announce that from now on clustering is officially supported and available for everyone in [Crowd Data Center|https://www.atlassian.com/software/crowd/enterprise/data-center]. This is the newest addition to Atlassian's Data Center family, which brings you high availability and uninterrupted access as well as all the features of Crowd Server. Crowd DC is also great at scaling – you can easily expand your DC with extra nodes that will pull all the necessary configuration from the shared file system, and join the cluster without any extra setup. Crowd Data Center is delivered in the [Crowd 3.0 release|https://confluence.atlassian.com/crowd/crowd-3-0-release-notes-934719586.html] together with support for Microsoft Azure Active Directory. We highly recommend you to upgrade your current Crowd version to the latest one. In case if you will require any help or assistance in setting up Crowd Data Center or have further questions please don't hesitate to get in touch with me directly at [mailto:mradochonski@atlassian.com] Please read the [upgrade notes|https://confluence.atlassian.com/crowd/crowd-3-0-upgrade-notes-905088628.html] for important information about this release before installing the newest version. To learn more about Crowd Data Center, check out our [technical documentation|https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/crowd-data-center-933084126.html], [technical FAQ|https://confluence.atlassian.com/enterprise/crowd-data-center-faq-933092399.html], and [licensing FAQ|https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/crowd]. You can download Crowd 3.0 from [here|https://www.atlassian.com/software/crowd/download?_ga=2.208081878.591644698.1502852955-2041459945.1501489427]. If you are ready to get started then [get a Crowd Data Center license|https://www.atlassian.com/purchase/product/crowd.data-center], or [try it out for free|https://my.atlassian.com/license/evaluation]. Thanks, Marek Radochonski Senior Product Manager, Crowd [mailto:mradochonski@atlassian.com] {panel} {panel:title=Atlassian Status as of 27 April 2011|borderStyle=solid|borderColor=#3c78b5|titleBGColor=#3c78b5|bgColor=#e7f4fa} Hi folks, Thanks for your feedback and continued support. We wanted to give you an update on the status of this issue. Over the medium term, the direction we're taking with Crowd is to focus on scalability, reliability and performance. Exciting development has occurred and is going to continue within this space. This feature is a strong candidate for a future release. We can't promise a specific release, but we'll update the issue when we have more concrete information. Regards, Eugene Mak Atlassian Product Management {panel} |
| Workflow | Original: Crowd Development Workflow v2 [ 273640 ] | New: Simplified Crowd Development Workflow v2 [ 1392396 ] |
| Remote Link | New: This issue links to "Page (Extranet)" [ 104909 ] |
| Resolution | New: Won't Fix [ 2 ] | |
| Status | Original: Open [ 1 ] | New: Resolved [ 5 ] |
Hi everyone,
Thank you for your votes and comments over the years on this documentation request.
Ideally we would like to be able to meet everyone's requirements and needs for Crowd, but the reality is that this is not always possible. Unfortunately, this is one of those cases, particularly since we don't provide support for Crowd clustering.
Closing issues that have a fair share of votes and comments is not an easy decision to make. However given that this has been open for several years now and we don't have any foreseeable plans to implement this, we've decided to make this clear so you know sooner rather than later.
If you'd like to read more information and discussion of Crowd clustering, have a look at https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CWD-1053
If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment or contact me on helen@atlassian.com
Cheers,
Helen Hung
Atlassian Product Management
Uwe Stuehler
added a comment - Hi Caspar,
We're running around in circles here. I found all of these links before plus some slides. And that's it.
There is no documentation currently online (read: indexed by google.com or archive.org), besides what's in CWD-2925, on the actual tweaks needed, e.g., to enable Tomcat Clustering and actual session replication (using the <distributable /> tag in web.xml). And possibly additional tweaks necessary for Hibernate. I've actually managed to get session replication to work now, and according to our tests it seems to work with and without sticky routes on the reverse-proxies, so that is good. However, what I would like is to check with the old "documentation" there was, whether I've missed anything.
Your first two links give no configuration details, just a high level overview. That's for management. I'm a system administrator and already got beyond the point where I'm drawing pretty diagrams. I'm testing it in the field.
Regarding Crowd load-balancing and Load balancing Crowd on Atlassian Answers are the only threads on that subject and they both link back to the original forum post as:
- 'Actual' current documentation: http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?forumID=104&threadID=25359
For the benefit of everyone else, I'm going to post an update to CWD-2925 with what we have so far and maybe to kick off the discussion again.
Uwe Stuehler
added a comment - Hi Caspar,
We're running around in circles here. I found all of these links before plus some slides . And that's it .
There is no documentation currently online (read: indexed by google.com or archive.org), besides what's in CWD-2925 , on the actual tweaks needed, e.g., to enable Tomcat Clustering and actual session replication (using the <distributable /> tag in web.xml ). And possibly additional tweaks necessary for Hibernate. I've actually managed to get session replication to work now, and according to our tests it seems to work with and without sticky routes on the reverse-proxies, so that is good. However, what I would like is to check with the old "documentation" there was, whether I've missed anything.
Your first two links give no configuration details, just a high level overview. That's for management. I'm a system administrator and already got beyond the point where I'm drawing pretty diagrams. I'm testing it in the field.
Regarding Crowd load-balancing and Load balancing Crowd on Atlassian Answers are the only threads on that subject and they both link back to the original forum post as:
'Actual' current documentation: http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?forumID=104&threadID=25359
For the benefit of everyone else, I'm going to post an update to CWD-2925 with what we have so far and maybe to kick off the discussion again.
Helen,
Can we have have any visibility into why Atlasssian has decided to not explore this bit of functionality? It is too technically challenging? Do you not have the resources you require to write a high availability application?
The document you point to from one of your certified expert partners says it it possible and details the steps to approximate a high availability version of Crowd. It seems strange that out of one side of your mouth you are pointing to a solution from an organization under the Atlasssian umbrella and with the other you are saying that it is not a priority.
It is great that you are looking to provide tighter integrations with your other products, but this is of little solace when your single monolithic Crowd instance tanks and now your 20,000 users can't log in. This message makes it seem that Atlassian is glibly accepting of the fact they are building software with single points of failure. Not only that there is no visibility into WHY this decision is being made. High availably applications are hardly a new technology. Why is Atlassian purposely deciding to build non scalable software?