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  2. CONFSERVER-16142

Convert\move a page to news (blog post) and news to a page

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      Use case: User make a page in personal space and wants to convert\move the page into a news item (blog post) together with all attachments

      Also want to move a blog post to a page.

            [CONFSERVER-16142] Convert\move a page to news (blog post) and news to a page

            I have found a workaround. (Page to News / Blogpost direction)


            1. Create a blogpost.
            2. Insert an "Include page" macro on it, with the page you wanted to convert.
            3. Save the blogpost.

            Ferenc Szabó added a comment - I have found a workaround. (Page to News / Blogpost direction) 1. Create a blogpost. 2. Insert an "Include page" macro on it, with the page you wanted to convert. 3. Save the blogpost.

            Hey there,

            working a lot with blog posts myself, I understand that it is frustrating to see this ticket being closed as "Won't fix".
            Our team has added functionality to convert pages to blog posts and vice versa to our app Space Admin for Confluence. With the latest release, we also added the possibility to retroactively adjust the publication date of blog posts into the future and the past. Have a great weekend everyone!

            Best, Max

            Max Foerster - Decadis AG added a comment - Hey there, working a lot with blog posts myself, I understand that it is frustrating to see this ticket being closed as "Won't fix". Our team has added functionality to convert pages to blog posts and vice versa to our app Space Admin for Confluence . With the latest release, we also added the possibility to retroactively adjust the publication date of blog posts into the future and the past. Have a great weekend everyone! Best, Max

            Would love to see this feature, frustrating to have to create a new post and remove the old.

            Garrett Hyder added a comment - Would love to see this feature, frustrating to have to create a new post and remove the old.

            Marcos added a comment -

            Thanks Suzanne,

            I have voted and watched CONFSERVER-59860 and CONFSERVER-60105.

            Marcos added a comment - Thanks Suzanne, I have voted and watched CONFSERVER-59860 and CONFSERVER-60105 .

            +1 this should be basic functionality

            Kinan Faham added a comment - +1 this should be basic functionality

            Wendy added a comment -

            +1 I agree, seems like something basic a user should be able to do. Pages are pages, I can make a blog as a child page, why can't I move a blog to become a child page?

            Wendy added a comment - +1 I agree, seems like something basic a user should be able to do. Pages are pages, I can make a blog as a child page, why can't I move a blog to become a child page?

            +1 It is incredible that a information management system doesn't let you manage it in a very basic way, at least without a 3P plugin.

            Matthew Bells added a comment - +1 It is incredible that a information management system doesn't let you manage it in a very basic way, at least without a 3P plugin.

            FYI, I've cloned this issue twice, for anyone who would like to contribute to a non-closed ticket (or should I say "falsely identified as resolved.")

            Deleted Account (Inactive) added a comment - FYI, I've cloned this issue twice, for anyone who would like to contribute to a non-closed ticket (or should I say "falsely identified as resolved.")

            tech added a comment -

            +1

            tech added a comment - +1

            Bob Grewar added a comment -

            +1

            Bob Grewar added a comment - +1

            Ioana added a comment -

            +1

            Ioana added a comment - +1

            +1

            Satoshi Takeda added a comment - +1

            +1

            Michael Odell added a comment - +1

            Man, seriously? I just discovered this isn't possible. Unbelievable. +1 on re-opening this.

            Deleted Account (Inactive) added a comment - Man, seriously? I just discovered this isn't possible. Unbelievable. +1 on re-opening this.

            +1

            monoboy added a comment -

            +1

            monoboy added a comment - +1

            Amen rodney.foley! They should get their heads out of their asses and apply some common sense.

            Michael Barton added a comment - Amen  rodney.foley ! They should get their heads out of their asses and apply some common sense.

            This should be reopened.

            Jason Kemp added a comment - This should be reopened.

            Rodney added a comment -

            WTF?!? This is another very reasonable feature request that is killed as won't fix and then people provide paid apps that provide some or all the functionality. That is a horrible user experience for users.  So the only way to convert a page to a blog and a blog to a page is to edit one select all then past into a new doc and then reformat and save, then delete the old one.

            GOOD JOB Atlassian!!! Just more crap piled in on the pile of garbage applications you guys make and don't really support. You constantly blame users for doing things wrong instead of fixing bugs, you refuse to implement popular common-sense feature requests. Forcing people to create apps which then they charge for or no one creates. Companies pay enough for this garbage they should get some real support and features. This has been going on for at least 8 years and shows no sign of changing.

            Whenever going for a new job I cringe when they say they use Atlassian products!

            Rodney added a comment - WTF?!? This is another very reasonable feature request that is killed as won't fix and then people provide paid apps that provide some or all the functionality. That is a horrible user experience for users.  So the only way to convert a page to a blog and a blog to a page is to edit one select all then past into a new doc and then reformat and save, then delete the old one. GOOD JOB Atlassian!!! Just more crap piled in on the pile of garbage applications you guys make and don't really support. You constantly blame users for doing things wrong instead of fixing bugs, you refuse to implement popular common-sense feature requests. Forcing people to create apps which then they charge for or no one creates. Companies pay enough for this garbage they should get some real support and features. This has been going on for at least 8 years and shows no sign of changing. Whenever going for a new job I cringe when they say they use Atlassian products!

            Dan Barrow added a comment -

            i can't believe we are expected to pay extra for what should be fundamental functionality

            Dan Barrow added a comment - i can't believe we are expected to pay extra for what should be fundamental functionality

            cashwalk added a comment -

            we want this!!

            cashwalk added a comment - we want this!!

            I have developed a plugin to support this and more, please check out... https://marketplace.atlassian.com/apps/1213130/blog-tools-for-confluence 

            KC Integrations added a comment - I have developed a plugin to support this and more, please check out... https://marketplace.atlassian.com/apps/1213130/blog-tools-for-confluence  

            That's a good feature to have.. 

            Ilia Tsvetkov added a comment - That's a good feature to have.. 

            Kai Werner added a comment -

            Would have been nice.

             

            Kai Werner added a comment - Would have been nice.  

            We also need this feature

            Vasiliy Zverev added a comment - We also need this feature

            Too bad it is closed. It is certainly a much needed feature.

            Natasha Liberman added a comment - Too bad it is closed. It is certainly a much needed feature.

            Maris Seimanovs added a comment - - edited

            For me the use case why this feature might be useful, was to work around this situation:

            https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-43307

            Hope Atlassian will at least do something about it to prevent need for converting a page (created by mistake) to a blog record preserving all existing comments.

             

            Maris Seimanovs added a comment - - edited For me the use case why this feature might be useful, was to work around this situation: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFSERVER-43307 Hope Atlassian will at least do something about it to prevent need for converting a page (created by mistake) to a blog record preserving all existing comments.  

            Thanks erinb for the review.  mbells, if you just want to convert your current pages, install a Trial License for 30 days, do the conversion using the Tools menu options and uninstall it.  This will help get your site cleaned up. The main benefit of the plugin is the Page to Blog template macro which would be used for ongoing installations.

            Hope this helps

            KC Integrations added a comment - Thanks  erinb  for the review.   mbells , if you just want to convert your current pages, install a Trial License for 30 days, do the conversion using the Tools menu options and uninstall it.  This will help get your site cleaned up. The main benefit of the plugin is the Page to Blog template macro which would be used for ongoing installations. Hope this helps

            Chiming in – the Blog Tools plugin works perfectly. Highly recommended.

            Erin Brusnahan added a comment - Chiming in – the Blog Tools plugin works perfectly. Highly recommended.

            Have you tried the Blog Tools plugin.  It will convert your pages including all attachments, data and attributes...

            KC Integrations added a comment - Have you tried the Blog Tools plugin.  It will convert your pages including all attachments, data and attributes...

            Too bad we can't continue to vote on this issue. I have dozens of pages with attachments and comments that we would like to move.

            Matthew Bells added a comment - Too bad we can't continue to vote on this issue. I have dozens of pages with attachments and comments that we would like to move.

            Just had a user ask for this.

            Jason D Smith added a comment - Just had a user ask for this.

            Well I for one think they should fix this...

            Michael Barton added a comment - Well I for one think they should fix this...

            We have an active primary blog and active discussion forums using the Adaptavist Community Forums add-on. We think it is very helpful to users to maintain appropriate distinction the two media streams (blogs and forum topics). Here's how we describe the two:

            If you want the information to last, and possibly evolve over time, and encourage responses and discussion, then you likely want to create a page (discussion forum topic). Use the New Topic button on every forum summary page or the corresponding button on the wiki Dashboard.

            If the information is specific mainly to the current time-frame, and isn't going to change over time, and is more an announcement than request for response then you'll most likely want to create it as a blog post. Use New Blog Post button on the wiki Dashboard.

            These aren't hard-and-fast rules; they're just pointers to give you a place to start.

            I regularly ask users to move content from a discussion forum page to the blog. Users are always responsive. Many are also aware of the downside of three alerting email messages going to watchers for the original topic post, the new blog post, and deletion of the original topic post. The hassle to the original user, the helpful admin, and at least one alerting message would be eliminated if there were a move function.

            Alas, the database design of Confluence seems to make the barrier to making available a "simple" content move function too high for Atlassian. You might think that Atlassian's consideration could evolve as Confluence has, but apparently not on this point. It's a shame.

            Tom Wolff (Admin) added a comment - We have an active primary blog and active discussion forums using the Adaptavist Community Forums add-on. We think it is very helpful to users to maintain appropriate distinction the two media streams (blogs and forum topics). Here's how we describe the two: If you want the information to last, and possibly evolve over time, and encourage responses and discussion, then you likely want to create a page (discussion forum topic) . Use the New Topic  button on every forum summary page or the corresponding button on the wiki Dashboard. If the information is specific mainly to the current time-frame, and isn't going to change over time, and is more an announcement than request for response then you'll most likely want to create it as a blog post . Use  New Blog Post button on the wiki Dashboard. These aren't hard-and-fast rules; they're just pointers to give you a place to start. I regularly ask users to move content from a discussion forum page to the blog. Users are always responsive. Many are also aware of the downside of three alerting email messages going to watchers for the original topic post, the new blog post, and deletion of the original topic post. The hassle to the original user, the helpful admin, and at least one alerting message would be eliminated if there were a move function. Alas, the database design of Confluence seems to make the barrier to making available a "simple" content move function too high for Atlassian. You might think that Atlassian's consideration could evolve as Confluence has, but apparently not on this point. It's a shame.

            It is quite frustrating that I cannot convert my rare blog posts into normal articles and sort them into the tree of pages.

            Plus it's quite frustrating that Atlassian just closes this issue so I can't vote on it.

            Tobias Rapp added a comment - It is quite frustrating that I cannot convert my rare blog posts into normal articles and sort them into the tree of pages. Plus it's quite frustrating that Atlassian just closes this issue so I can't vote on it.

            This is not going to be implemented ?! What the..... why don't you then just remove the entire blog functionality please to prevent people from creating elaborate pages in blog space, where they are eventually... stuck. forever.

            Bas Biesheuvel added a comment - This is not going to be implemented ?! What the..... why don't you then just remove the entire blog functionality please to prevent people from creating elaborate pages in blog space, where they are eventually... stuck. forever.

            Could you please elaborate on why this idea has been rejected?

            Deepankar Jain added a comment - Could you please elaborate on why this idea has been rejected?

            Tim H. added a comment -

            What's the point of closing this issue except to keep more people from voting for it? Or are you saying that it will never, ever be implemented?

            Tim H. added a comment - What's the point of closing this issue except to keep more people from voting for it? Or are you saying that it will never, ever be implemented?

            Thanks to everyone for sending in this suggestion. Unfortunately, we do not have any plans to implement this in the foreseeable future. In order to set expectations correctly, we're closing this request now.

            Regards,
            Confluence Product Management

            Matt Lawrence (Inactive) added a comment - Thanks to everyone for sending in this suggestion. Unfortunately, we do not have any plans to implement this in the foreseeable future. In order to set expectations correctly, we're closing this request now. Regards, Confluence Product Management

            I know this doesn't help fix the "Create" button issue, but the Confluence Blog Tools mentioned above has a feature to move Pages into the Blog area when this happens, check it out...

            KC Integrations added a comment - I know this doesn't help fix the "Create" button issue, but the Confluence Blog Tools mentioned above has a feature to move Pages into the Blog area when this happens, check it out...

            I ran into the very same issue mentioned by Jan-Peter the other day, absolutely second that!

            florian.rathgeber added a comment - I ran into the very same issue mentioned by Jan-Peter the other day, absolutely second that!

            Hi,
            with Confluence 5.9 the "Create" button change to either create a blank page or choose from page templates (***). This new handling leads to errors, when our users want to create a blog post by opening the blog first and then click "Create" expecting to create a new blog post. Instead they create a new page. They then create the page & save it, call support & ask "Where is my blog post?"...
            Therefore either make it default to create a blog post when already viewing a blog / blog post or create a method to change a page into a blog post.

            Jan-Peter Rusch added a comment - Hi, with Confluence 5.9 the "Create" button change to either create a blank page or choose from page templates (***). This new handling leads to errors, when our users want to create a blog post by opening the blog first and then click "Create" expecting to create a new blog post. Instead they create a new page. They then create the page & save it, call support & ask "Where is my blog post?"... Therefore either make it default to create a blog post when already viewing a blog / blog post or create a method to change a page into a blog post.

            Hi,

            Have you tried this plugin, Confluence Blog Tools, it addresses this issue. I am currently developing new features for it. Please try it out and provide feedback and improvement ideas.

            KC Integrations added a comment - Hi, Have you tried this plugin, Confluence Blog Tools , it addresses this issue. I am currently developing new features for it. Please try it out and provide feedback and improvement ideas.

            I have been appalled by the giant "Create" button since it first came out in Confluence 5. It was clear that our users were going to create content of the wrong sort in the wrong place. We have been holding off upgrading from Confluence 4 until we can redesign Confluence without that "Create" button, most likely with Adaptavist ThemeBuilder. To us this is another case of Atlassian developers not actually using their application the way their customers' users do.

            Tom Wolff (Admin) added a comment - I have been appalled by the giant "Create" button since it first came out in Confluence 5. It was clear that our users were going to create content of the wrong sort in the wrong place. We have been holding off upgrading from Confluence 4 until we can redesign Confluence without that "Create" button, most likely with Adaptavist ThemeBuilder. To us this is another case of Atlassian developers not actually using their application the way their customers' users do.

            +1 x 1000

            This is soooo frustrating when parred with the fact that the giant "Create" button at the top of the page doesn't create a new blog post when you're viewing the blog. We routinely have people create pages that are supposed to be blog posts because of this (and yes we all know that it doesn't work that way, but it's so unintuitive that even the most attentive users make this mistake regularly). Overall very frustrating for something that should be so simple.

            Cayley Humphries added a comment - +1 x 1000 This is soooo frustrating when parred with the fact that the giant "Create" button at the top of the page doesn't create a new blog post when you're viewing the blog. We routinely have people create pages that are supposed to be blog posts because of this (and yes we all know that it doesn't work that way, but it's so unintuitive that even the most attentive users make this mistake regularly). Overall very frustrating for something that should be so simple.

            +!

            +1

            Thierry Dalon added a comment - +1

            +1

            Hi there,
            That was a beta plugin, no longer supported, please now have a look at this one...https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/net.kentcom.confluence-blog-tools
            Cheers
            Chris

            KC Integrations added a comment - Hi there, That was a beta plugin, no longer supported, please now have a look at this one... https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/net.kentcom.confluence-blog-tools Cheers Chris

            I can't seem to find that Macro from Chris Kent in the market place - could someone share an updated/working link?

            Christopher Emerson added a comment - I can't seem to find that Macro from Chris Kent in the market place - could someone share an updated/working link?

            Hello Chris,
            thanks for the patch and quick response. We now can use it for our purpose.
            Iakov

            Iakov Dlikman added a comment - Hello Chris, thanks for the patch and quick response. We now can use it for our purpose. Iakov

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