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  1. Atlassian Guard
  2. ACCESS-1767

Provisioning users with certain application access does not add them to the default access groups for that application

      Issue Summary

      Provisioning users with certain application access does not add them to the default access groups for that application

      Steps to Reproduce

      1. Provision a user from an external IDP. The user is part of a provisioned group that grants access to a certain application

      Expected Results

      If the user is granted access to that application (via the group membership), then the user should also be added to the default application access group for that application (jira-users or confluence-users by default)

      Actual Results

      The user is only part of the provisioned group, hence having access to the application, but not to the bits that are protected by additional permissions granted to the default access groups

      Workaround

      Manually adding each user to the default application access group

            [ACCESS-1767] Provisioning users with certain application access does not add them to the default access groups for that application

            It's disappointing that this ticket has been closed. We've released an app to fix this issue, Admin Automation, and to solve other challenging and time consuming admin tasks. The app will sync users from any groups (e.g. a group from an IdP) into the default product access groups.

            Hopefully it can help some of the people on this thread!

            -Kieren
            Co-Founder @ Smol Software | Ex-Atlassian

            Kieren _SmolSoftware_ added a comment - It's disappointing that this ticket has been closed. We've released an app to fix this issue, Admin Automation , and to solve other challenging and time consuming admin tasks. The app will sync users from any groups (e.g. a group from an IdP) into the default product access groups. Hopefully it can help some of the people on this thread! -Kieren Co-Founder @ Smol Software | Ex-Atlassian

            Ryan Van added a comment -

            Not a bug as this is intended usage for default groups

            Ryan Van added a comment - Not a bug as this is intended usage for default groups

            SCIM rep here

            This is expected behavior in SCIM's perspective/scope since SCIM does not modify default access groups. There must be a different flow for this.

            Krishna Turlapati Venkata added a comment - - edited SCIM rep here This is expected behavior in SCIM's perspective/scope since SCIM does not modify default access groups. There must be a different flow for this.

            Scott Howard / Gavin Teichman - Unfortunately, there's still no solution within admin.atlassian.com. But there is an app being developed to solve this issue along with ACCESS-604. It'll be launched as a closed beta in mid December 2023, and publicly on the Atlassian Marketplace in January 2024. Check out smolsoftware.com if you're interested in the beta.

            -Kieren
            Co-Founder @ Smol Software | Ex-Atlassian

            Kieren _SmolSoftware_ added a comment - Scott Howard / Gavin Teichman - Unfortunately, there's still no solution within admin.atlassian.com. But there is an app being developed to solve this issue along with ACCESS-604 . It'll be launched as a closed beta in mid December 2023, and publicly on the Atlassian Marketplace in January 2024. Check out smolsoftware.com if you're interested in the beta. -Kieren Co-Founder @ Smol Software | Ex-Atlassian

            @scott Howard.  if you are using scim. you just assign that scim group to the product in product access under the relevant site to get access automatically upon group assignment or user provisioning.   the issue with this is if you were using the default access group on for permissions on anything in the apps themselves. we had to go into 2,000 projects and assign  the new scim group permissions.   i didnt have time to learn the rest api but it can do it too i believe.

            if you are not using scim then assigning a user product access either directly or assigning a group they are a member of it should add them to that default access group.

            rest api can do this as well
             

            Gavin Teichman added a comment - @scott Howard.  if you are using scim. you just assign that scim group to the product in product access under the relevant site to get access automatically upon group assignment or user provisioning.   the issue with this is if you were using the default access group on for permissions on anything in the apps themselves. we had to go into 2,000 projects and assign  the new scim group permissions.   i didnt have time to learn the rest api but it can do it too i believe. if you are not using scim then assigning a user product access either directly or assigning a group they are a member of it should add them to that default access group. rest api can do this as well  

            We recently migrated to Confluence Cloud and are having to manually add hundreds of users to Confluence. This is absurd that they are not automatically added to the default access group and automatically are able to consume a license without an admin having to do so.

            Scott Howard added a comment - We recently migrated to Confluence Cloud and are having to manually add hundreds of users to Confluence. This is absurd that they are not automatically added to the default access group and automatically are able to consume a license without an admin having to do so.

            Poat added a comment -

            any other work around other than changing perms?  I'm always chasing users and adding the default groups to IDP users

            Poat added a comment - any other work around other than changing perms?  I'm always chasing users and adding the default groups to IDP users

            update?

            Gavin Teichman added a comment - update?

            It is definitely bug. We need this feature ASAP. Workaround is not suitable for us.

            Laima Kuzmauskiene added a comment - It is definitely bug. We need this feature ASAP. Workaround is not suitable for us.

            Any update on this please?

            Chris Brook added a comment - Any update on this please?

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