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  2. CONF-12001

include Calendar plugin as supported plugin

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      The Calendar plugin is one of Confluence's most popular plugins.

      Atlassian Status as of 10/11/2010

      Hi All,
      Thank you for your patience with this plugin. We are currently looking Calendaring in Confluence and have been researching possible solutions for improving the Calendaring experience in the product.

      If you are interested in participating in some customer feedback, surveys or early access to some prototypes for Calendering please email me (smansour at atlassian dot com) so I can add you to our feedback list. Alternatively, continue to watch this issue and we will update it as we make further progress.

      The existing calendar plugin is known to work in Confluence 3.3/3.4, even though it isn't formally supported. As always, we recommend you test the plugin before using it in a production environment.

      Cheers,
      Sherif Mansour
      Confluence Product Manager

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          Martin Seibert (//SEIBERT/MEDIA, Germany) added a comment -

          I refuse to agree, that the price point of this piece of software is expensive. You guys keep comparing all pricing with the Confluence and JIRA basic pricing, which is not fair and will ultimately be problematic:
          1. Plugins sell less and thus have to be more expensive to be refinanced.
          2. Confluence and JIRA land in a company. A low price point is crucial for that mission. Plugins simply have to reflect the value they bring.

          I highly recommend to start comparing prices with value, that you get out of team calendars. I am pretty sure, that Atlassian is not going to reduce pricing for this one in the foreseeable future.

          Did you know, that you get a 40% discount in the first year as an introduction? You should go for that.

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          Martin Seibert (//SEIBERT/MEDIA, Germany) added a comment - I refuse to agree, that the price point of this piece of software is expensive. You guys keep comparing all pricing with the Confluence and JIRA basic pricing, which is not fair and will ultimately be problematic: 1. Plugins sell less and thus have to be more expensive to be refinanced. 2. Confluence and JIRA land in a company. A low price point is crucial for that mission. Plugins simply have to reflect the value they bring. I highly recommend to start comparing prices with value, that you get out of team calendars. I am pretty sure, that Atlassian is not going to reduce pricing for this one in the foreseeable future. Did you know, that you get a 40% discount in the first year as an introduction? You should go for that.
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          Jeff Mitchell added a comment -

          I generally have to agree with Martin here, although I think he meant "refined" instead of "refinanced"

          (CalDAV)

          Confluence and JIRA are priced low, IMHO, compared to the value they bring (look at the price of Confluence vs. Lotus Connections for instance). This helps growth and adoption, and it's a valid market strategy. Extra plugins on top are priced both to fund their development and because this helps offset the low price of the original software.

          (CalDAV)

          The Calendar plugin was nice when it was free, but to be honest, I discouraged users from relying on it specifically because it was a freebie and not open source. I knew that Atlassian could stop development on it at any time (not that many didn't use it anyways, which means I have an unfun manual upgrade coming up, unless an automatically-upgrading version is released soon), and I wouldn't really have any right to be angry with them for this, nor would I have recourse or an upgrade path without the source code.

          (CalDAV)

          To me, the new product looks like it brings a lot of extra, useful features. Yes, it's costly compared to Confluence, but that's comparing apples with oranges; it's not costly compared to many other group calendaring solutions (Oracle calendar, Exchange).

          Did I mention I need it to support CalDAV?

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          Jeff Mitchell added a comment - I generally have to agree with Martin here, although I think he meant "refined" instead of "refinanced" (CalDAV) Confluence and JIRA are priced low, IMHO, compared to the value they bring (look at the price of Confluence vs. Lotus Connections for instance). This helps growth and adoption, and it's a valid market strategy. Extra plugins on top are priced both to fund their development and because this helps offset the low price of the original software. (CalDAV) The Calendar plugin was nice when it was free, but to be honest, I discouraged users from relying on it specifically because it was a freebie and not open source. I knew that Atlassian could stop development on it at any time (not that many didn't use it anyways, which means I have an unfun manual upgrade coming up, unless an automatically-upgrading version is released soon), and I wouldn't really have any right to be angry with them for this, nor would I have recourse or an upgrade path without the source code. (CalDAV) To me, the new product looks like it brings a lot of extra, useful features. Yes, it's costly compared to Confluence, but that's comparing apples with oranges; it's not costly compared to many other group calendaring solutions (Oracle calendar, Exchange). Did I mention I need it to support CalDAV?
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          Andrew Barnes added a comment - - edited

          Martin comes off as a shill.

          If the plugin was fully featured, I wouldn't balk at price. The lack of:

          ...to me are the reason for a 40% discount.

          Jeff: If you want CalDAV, have you created an issue for it? I can't find any when searching for CalDAV...

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          Andrew Barnes added a comment - - edited Martin comes off as a shill. If the plugin was fully featured, I wouldn't balk at price. The lack of: ability to relate more than one person to an event/appointment ( TEAMCAL-86 ) RVSP functionality ( TEAMCAL-104 ) compact views ( TEAMCAL-99 ) security ( TEAMCAL-102 ) ...to me are the reason for a 40% discount. Jeff : If you want CalDAV, have you created an issue for it? I can't find any when searching for CalDAV...
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          Jeff Mitchell added a comment -

          It's a good point – there's a lot lacking. But it's a 1.0 product, and I'm hoping that by converting it to a paid product, they'll be putting resources behind those kinds of needs (I need those things too )

          I haven't put in an issue for CalDAV because I've been trying first to find out if it's already supported. The interoperability information is maddeningly abstract (OK, it interoperates with iCal and Outlook, but using what?) I guess it's easy for them to close an issue if it's already supported – thanks for the links to the appropriate project

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          Jeff Mitchell added a comment - It's a good point – there's a lot lacking. But it's a 1.0 product, and I'm hoping that by converting it to a paid product, they'll be putting resources behind those kinds of needs (I need those things too ) I haven't put in an issue for CalDAV because I've been trying first to find out if it's already supported. The interoperability information is maddeningly abstract (OK, it interoperates with iCal and Outlook, but using what ?) I guess it's easy for them to close an issue if it's already supported – thanks for the links to the appropriate project
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          Martin Seibert (//SEIBERT/MEDIA, Germany) added a comment -

          You may be right for this plugin. But I expect Atlassian to repeat that in the future again. It is simply an easy strategy to generate an additional revenue stream. Just like with Greenhopper.

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          Martin Seibert (//SEIBERT/MEDIA, Germany) added a comment - You may be right for this plugin. But I expect Atlassian to repeat that in the future again. It is simply an easy strategy to generate an additional revenue stream. Just like with Greenhopper.

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